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Take discussion of the policy to the policy thread, please.

Because you agreed to it when you posted here. http://www.philoticweb.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=35

For the record for all watching, posting links to websites that attack another's beliefs as a substitute for expressing one's own's views is VERY POOR TASTE, and shouldn't be permitted here.

Anti-anyone's religion website links do not belong in this forum.

And yes, ,elfprince, that means you, too.

Well. Though I dont believe this in the slightest, i wanted to point out a paradox. If Gods omnipotent he sees all, the past, the future, so he knows what hes going to do right? Therefore, is he doing everything he does because he wants to, or because he sees he does it. the way I understand it, om...

The problem with this, that I see, is that if you talk about "sin" as "missing the target", then you have just two options, missing the target, or hitting it. There's no neutral ground. The modern definition, however, allows for more shades of meaning. Just because you aren't si...

I am not trying to start an argument, Taal, please do not get offended, but I was wondering how your innocence statement works along with the idea that blacks are black because they were neutral in the war in heaven (or they didn't fight or something like that) and whites are white because they fou...

Aw kool, this thing's still going! Cheers Taal, interesting read. Just one thing: We agreed to this plan. All who have been born, or will be born, agreed to the terms. This seems like a slightly more reasonable version of the idea that I can be bound by agreements made by my ancestors but there's a...

they believe that something they did may have caused them to be permanently separated from God. Like you were saying, that's not a healthy relationship. I strongly believe that choices we make, things we do, if we don't allow ourselves to be Reconciled through a proper acceptance of the Atonement o...

My take on free will is that it is the original sin. In the garden of Eden, God told Adam and Eve not to eat of the Tree of Knowledge. The serpent told them that if they ate from the tree they would be like God's. So right there, they had the choice to do good or do evil and they chose evil. thus, ...

Does God have free will? Absolutely. He is free to do all that he desires to do.

I believe the answer to the question is no. God has all power. That doesn't mean 'all power I, as a human, can comprehend and imagine that I think should be possible', it means everything that is possible in the Eternal sphere. I don't believe that "All things are possible" includes parado...

Here is something I've always wondered. Let's assume for the moment that the bible is actually inspired by God. Many of the claims about God, such as his omnibenevolence, omnipotence, etc., as well as how things happened in Heaven before the Fall, all that is God claiming these things. How do we kn...

've seen this idea that Jesus suffered more than anyone (I know, not quite what you said so yell at me if you mean different) in a few places now and I'm a little confused by it. I mean, crucifiction sucks, but he's not unique in that regard and it's not like we've any shortage of imaginative and p...

Of course it would take a religion thread to pull me out of lurker mode ;) I'm going to simplify and lineally present my LDS belief and understanding of key elements of the need for and blessings that come from A Savior. Bear with me, some foundations are necessary to understand first. I will not be...

So is there any good "Last Two Years of Pweb Drama" recap?

"Well...I'm back." This next month, and the next couple weeks expecially, are going to be crazy busy. But I needed to stop by to see m' homies here at the Pweb. I will be around, but not too much, at least for the next couple weeks. Life is good, I'm incredibly happy, and oh, the wedding i...

The jist of it is that if true Christians want to serve others (and vicariously, Christ) then first and foremost they need to stamp out the absolute evil being done in His name. Without severing themselves from it, the good they do in serving others is negated, sullied and stained. Any Christians w...

Actually, I think 'separation from the world' is a highly useful and valuable key reason for some commandments, especially the dietery ones.

I believe it has deeper allegorical significance.

I have a few â€œproblemsâ€ with the concept of â€œsinâ€. a) What is the purpose of the â€œoriginal sinâ€? As far as I understand, the fact that Adam and Eve wanted to become as knowledgeable as God (and therefore listened to the â€œevil serpentâ€) was seen as the first sin (hence the name) and ...

Why should I glorify God? He's perfectly capable of glorifying himself without my paltry assistance.

All that we have, or can have, is due to Him, and that in sustaining Him, we are assisting in His work to guide mankind, His Children, to achieving their full potential.

Agreed. These sources of teaching may work for you Taal, but none of them make sense to me. Conscience seems like a part of the thinking process, and there is no reason to believe that it is at all linked to anything divine. The other three seem to be highly subjective, and (IMHO) completely made u...

We have several teachers. Our conscience is the most primal. If we listen to that, we will be more likely to hear the Holy Spirit testify when a messenger of God accurately teaches the Truth. [â€¦] In other words, are teacher IS God, our Father, who uses these means to communicate: a) Our conscienc...

What argument? Seriously? There was no argument. He said, for all intents and purposes, "All this is so silly. And it's REALLY in the BIBLE, although you probably don't believe me. Here's the proof!" I'll go up a notch, and post a link to http://www.biblegateway.com - we fully admit and kn...

Don't ask such questions, dear. If wikiBible was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for us.

Here is the full text of Leviticus. I don't know exactly where the relevant passages are, but I'll look it up and quote them. If you find them, don't hesitate to quote those passages (with the correct citation). I've read Leviticus, in its entirety, more than a few times. In context with reading th...

d) Scripture I like Scriptures. Especially the parts in Leviticus where wearing unnatural fibers, shaving, working on Shabbas, eating lobster or shrimp and having more than one plant in your garden are abominations in the eyes of God, equal to that of homosexuality. Which means, apparantly, you do ...

we are our own teacher. God, or the idea of God, is there fore guidance and consolement. Regardless of whther he exists or not, humans put the face on him, and it is us who decide what and who he is. Nobody actually knows who or what God is, so make things up to excuse our ignorance. We are essenti...

That's one sticking point with me. God makes up all these weird rules that really don't make alot of sense, like you have to kill a dove or a ram for him to forgive you for your transgressions. Why all the blood and the killing and all that? I mean, it doesn't really mean anything in of itself, unl...

We are children of God sent off to school, with the opportunity to grow and to learn to become perfect.

But you see, that's the problem. Jesus Christ said that his true followers would be "no part of the world". (John 17:16) Therefore, they should take no part in politics or war. This is a point of disagreement. First of all, placing the quote in context (and I'll use the NWT), this was in ...

It's true. According to LDS belief, God is a spirit. A Great, awesome spirit. But I'm a spirit too. And so are all of you. You and I are clothed in a mortal, corruptible body of flesh and blood. God the Father (and Christ since His Resurrection) are clothed with immortal, incomprehensible bodies of ...

Where do Mormons believe that God and the prexistance came from? I mean, they have to have came from somewhere... As far as I understand what has been revealed on the subject, un organized matter, and un organized Intelligence always was. When the plans of organization and exaltation started, there...

And using the evidnece you cited from the Bible, it seems that you interpret God to have been just a man, but an immortal one, and also the progenitor of our race. I would never call our Heavenly Father, 'Just a Man'. It's really not accurate. And while immortal, He is also so much more than that -...

So are you saying the part of the bible where the holy spirit fools and tricks people aren't true?

I can't think of the references you're thinking of. Mind citing them?

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